Zero Carnage Day
 

Ok, I have some variables about the zero lan day...

***cough***rem sugested it***cough***

Venue:

If it were at my place, down at coldstream, it would only be for one day say about 7:30am to 1am? and i cant realy . And I only have a 56k modem, so grupe internet gaming would be a problem....

We could have it at a scout hall... and make it a large Lan, say about 20 - 50 people? and we could spend the night out there. But things would get complexed, eg. networking, food providing, charging for the venue, heating and ect.....

Networking:

I ownly have a 5 port router, with 2 ports left, and limited amounts of cabeling.... so someone is gonna have to help me with that.... ***me looks at rem***

Food:

Food.... erm..... i could lash out 50 bucks or so to get drinks and stuff..... but you would have to tell me what to get, because i dont know what you like. you'd have you bring some money around to pay for some take away food. just incase your wondering, there's macca's :) , pizza + pasta, KFC, chinese food ***eerr, dog***, noodle bar, more macca's and that about it, and a few supermarkets, so if you want to buy some food there we can come back, and i'll cook it for ya. :)

Other:

We could even have a bbq at lunch time, so people without a mobial pc ***me thinks of Cray90's*** can come and socialize. but people would have to bring some meat allong, because lets face it im only 15 and on a tight budget.

um... any other things i think about i'll discus later... Questions are welcome.

can someone shout me a plane ride ??? :P

Sure Hero, just let me transfer some money into your bank accout, 2 grand will do it?!?! was that a yes?!? Good......

*comes back a bit l8ter after trying to transfer money across to your account*

Errrm, soz i only have $22 in there, and it wont let me go below zero *chucklz* sorry dude your gonna have to walk!

Have another BBQ somewhere closer to civilisation on a day when it doesnt rain :D

lol, coke! my coldstream 'hole', is in the melbourne metro.... just! it's right on the border.

And my BBQ here is an absolute beast, and it's undercover, so is the outside eating area.

where's coldstream? like .... which train station is it closest to ...

Lillydale, instinct, if you walk from there it's about a 45 min to 65 mins trip to my place, why do you need to know? if your thinking of public transport well, erm... we can arrange something...

*note* i just timed how long it took for me the start up a game of cs, from the time i pressed 'Create' till the console poping up, it took me 3.5618 seconds! w00t! my box is a beast!

OOOHHH!! KFC!! i can get you discount ;)


lillydale is ages away, but its the train line closest to me! so ;)

Kool, silver! i could probaly get you all a discount at Lillydale Macca's do you know why?! I work there! but it could range from %10 - %50 if they let me use it :)

And why are people catching public transport for? wont it be weird taking your pc on a train, or bus? or are you just coming for the bbq? (if we have one)

if i come it'll be just for the food, family pc they wont let me take it outa the house :( stupidos! :(

hmm.... ***me thinks*** Silver, how old are you? shouldn't you be able to buy your own PC?!?!

Im 15, and i recently brought an AMD 2200+, GA-7VRXP, a stick of DDR333 (512mb), a 400w PSU, and a ATI Radeon 9100 for about $600 (out of my own money)

and about 2 weeks ago I got a black Thermaltake, Xaser III, Super tower series w/ HardCano 9 and w/ 7 case fans (total of 13 fans) :) and thats for $285 and it totaly kicks ass! http://www.thermaltake.com/products/.../v1000plus.htm <--- Thats my case exactly :) :) :)

:bang:
:( not fair i want your pc
i have a 2000+, soltek mB (carn't remember witch one of hand), 256 MB ddr266, 80 gig seagate HDD, 17" Moniter, 5.1 creative sound card and creative inspire 5100 speakers, lite on dvd rom, Diamond Data 48*40*12 CDRW, and a cheap case (from what ever money i had left over) all up $1500. only prob is i have no cooling so it has a problem of over heating :(. so i got side panel of but its full of dust :P

What?! your's has better Perhelia though.... and isn't like your pc is $hit anyways....

***crys*** I wish I had your HDD! in only have a 10gig (UDMA), 4gig (UDMA), and a 5gig (DMA) and on my mobo, I have the abilitys of the normal IDE controler (Pri, and Sec) which is 'ATA133', and allso an intergrated Promise *Dual* Raid '0', and '1', which is allso 'ATA133', so it means 2 hdd on '0' raid can obtain 266Mb/s and if i have 4 hdd on '0' it would be 532Mb/s :) ***drool***

i would drool if i understood hahahaha

na i know what raid is and shit just nothin technical

Good! because I have seen you geek score, and you wouldn't be a geek if you didn't know what RAID was!

altho i allso have $hite sound (SB Vibra 128) wow! and stupid Deawoo 15" mon, which is half blury. but still... I love my Dual mon' setup, resolution of 2048 * 768... and sitll no DVD drive.

lol i want a dual mon setup
i have a spare mon and a spar pci graf card :)

Yeah, well insert your old Pci video card, and attach mon, and go into the Bios and tell it to boot from the PCI device first. then in windows go into the desktop prop's - settings, and then enable the other monitor by a little click box down the bottom, allso make you AGP device's monitor your primary monitor, that way you dont load your games on your shit PCI thingy.... thats if you decide to do it, if you do, tell me and i'll give you some Tips and tricks to make it look nice!

im 17, but i have alot of other things to pay for rather than spending it on upgrading my pc, but i shall be getting a new one in less than a year.

i thought u jsut got yours a few months back ss ??
well, my computer is also shared with my bro, so dun think i cna come to lanage :<

got it almost 8 months ago i think.

Instinct - :( that sux, errr, bring your bro along!

SS - im going to see if i can make it a Bi-yearly event.... thats if this one gose down well.....

8 months isnt all that long ago SS, i'm sure your computer is still fine...
Though from your screenshots, you really need a mediocure (atleast) 3d card.

SS, if you plan on buying a new Grapics Card, go here: http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/ it's one of the best places I know about... And it has free shipping! :) or you could go here for the absolute lowest prices: http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=7&t=153 it's an Atomic Video Card Price watch thread, and if you are interested there is an Atomic CPU Pricewatch at http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=6&t=1453 :)

/Rem looks at his main PC, a PIII 866, and he smiles :D

I won't be coming to a LAN - I don't have that much time these days... maybe next year I might be able to again, but we'll have to see how much time I get once I'm married and settled down again :D

I will definitely come to a BBQ or something like that tho - u bet! And I'd be happy to drive ppl around to get there - just don't make it in August :P

Lol! ok rem, well if i do, could i get a show of hands of those who think the'll be able to come to either the BBQ or Lan? i allso would like their email addy so i ask some gerneral questions... if you guys dont mind!

I'll allso send emails to all the inactive Zero's and past zero's... because the more people we have the more fun it will be!!

errm, so far it looks like the BBQ is on... but i'll need some help with providing the meat and so forth...

Rem - What do you think about making it Bi-Yearly?! i would allso like other opinions on that aswell! ***mental note, Make it in august*** and me needs to talk to your wife, i'll convince her to let you go to the lan :) i'll make her an offer she cant refuse!

***slaps myself*** Soz rem! I have been watching to much of those godfathers... :D

ya i think i will only prob is my mon and my pci is from an old 100 mhz HAHAHAHAHAHA so i wonder if it would be worth doing or not

hey rem, whers my invite ? havent got it yet ?

SS - It's at my place dude, 'my hole' *cough* coldstream!ROFLMAO!

anyways, all Zero's and ex-Zero's are expected to come... and we might let a few other people in like, erm... Mr.Nevyn? dont start thinking that your coming SS :P, Nah dude, your cool, I just have to get the 'ok' by the other zero's, ***looks at tag, under his name*** :D but im sure it'll be fine... so... Come allong!!!

~~~starts dreaming~~~

BUT! If it was up to me it would be a Hired Hall, i'd make it a public event, approx. 80 to 400 people and you'd have to play an entry fee (unless if your a VIP of one of the following... zero clan/ex-zero, friend of mine, friend of zero clan, sponor, or Atomic staff) :) VIP's would be in a different room than the regulars, would get free drinks / food and a privert VIP sleeping quarters, and allso access to Nintedo game cube, PS2, TV's, Xbox. Allso we would get sponsers from numerouse companys..

it would be an awsome event we would have about a total of about 30 servers, running, Q3:A, BF1942, BF1942:DC, UT2003, CS, Half-life, Dod, TFC, RTCW, Jedi knight 2: Jedi outcast, AVP 1 + 2, Doom 1 + 2 including wolfenstein 3d, and a few other games.... :D

It would go from friday night, to sunday night. We would have bouncers, and a stripper (Hero's mum :D) for the VIP's. ROFLMAO!

we would have spare computers set up there, but regulars will be charged by per hour ( but VIP's would get 4 free hours on it before they start getting charged (but would be discounted))

all so, there would be prizes for tornaments winners...

~~~Back To Reality!~~~

Hero, It'll be cool dude, I dont use mine other than normal windows stuff.... because if you game with 2 mons you'll have a huge gap down the middle, and thats not good! allso you cant have your monitors too close, otherwise, the RF from each gives the other monitor the 'blurs' :@ AND! games running off a PCI slot?! c'mon! you'd have to be kidding!

Ahh well stuit your self, I would highly recomend it though.

ahem!!

who went to the 2nd bbq

http://zero.ozclans.com/?zero=bbq2


cough :D

Well thats kool!

Are you coming then?!

Hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha

sorry let me breath

No, you really wouldn't. Modern day HDD's max out at about 30MB/s, SATA, ATA100 or ATA133. So you want to do 4 HDDs? say 100MB/s MAX (not counting for master/slave problems), and the more hdds in there the more chance of the raid collapsing and you losing all your data... go talk to blyth =P

As for video card prices, auspcmarket is good, its a very respectful operation, and is fantastic, although
1. it's in sydney, I always suggest people buy products from their own city so that if you need warranty on the product you don't have massive problems getting it, and the length of time between returning the faulty product and getting a fixed one back is minimal.
2. It can be ALOT more expensive than other stores, in Sydney, there are 3 major online stores, www.eyo.com.au , www.umart.com.au , & www.auspcmarket.com.au some of auspcmarkets products are the same low price as that of eyo & umart, but others are VERY much more expensive.

Shop around the online/retail/markets in Melbourne if your going to buy anything.

ROFLMAO! ha ha... ***cough, cough*** geez, I didn't wanna get technical! but...

Pfft! Yes, you are *cough*semi-*cough* right, but! HDD manufactures say that ATA33 has a Thoretical 'Burst' (at end of platter) transfer rate of appox 33Mb per second... (***thinks***erm... SHIT! I cant remember if it was Mega-Bytes or Mega-Bits...shit... but anywhich way I use Mb Im still correct :)) and same gose with ATA66, ATA100 and ATA133, or SATA33!!! so Thereticaly if what they say is true, then, I can get 532mb/s under raid '0' with 4 HDD, at the end of a platter at a "burst"

Yes it is true about the 'More HDD you have the fast they will fall' Thats why you need a very good PSU, Identical HDD's (yes, i know, but still, some people can be very stupid somtimes), and make sure you scan for bad sectors atleast one a month, all tho if you were running a small web server (or somthing like that) I would set up 4 HDD's on RAID '0', and a PCI RAID setup, and have another 4 HDD's on RAID (erm, i cant remember, i think it either "1"? "2"? or "5"?) mirroring those 4 HDD's on RAID '0' (and allso having it timed so it backs up the differences, every 10 mins or so.) that way, you can never loose your data, and if you do, it will be very little! But either way, your still right in what you say.

Oero, tell me, whats the difference between, Serial and Parallel?Then explain why Serial is better than parallel, for HDD usage... And if you dont read Atomic, I will be very impressed, if you get it right...

Then after that, put on some glasses, put your finger on your temple, and say that famouse quote from Homer J. Simpson, "The sqaure root of a side on an isosceles triangle equals the square root, of the two remaining sides..." :D

Oh, and thank you Oreo, for the shopping tips, the'll come in handy some time soon :)

Plz mind any spelling mistakes, I was in a rush, and was unable to think right.

:D cheers,
Elad

elad - we should do BYO meat, food & drink - so u just have to provide the venue and BBQ :D

twice yearly is good, but not this august cos i am "unavailable" :P

for e-mail addies.... i did send an e-mail to all ZERO's a week or so ago - with details of my upcoming wedding service :D did u get that e-mail? i think i sent it to maybe your mbox or hotmail addies - if u have a new e-mail then let me know what it is, and i'll send another team e-mail so u get all the addies :D

SS - your invite... hmm... soz... i haven't sent it out to extra special VIP non zero's yet (SS, Cokey, Insty, maybe 1 or 2 others) so i better /Rem writes himself a reminder note

elad - if u want to use 4 HDD's - use RAID 3 - if u have 4x120Gb drives, then the data is striped across the lot, and u end up with 360Gb storage, and a correction bit such that if one fails then you can hot swap it and lose no data at all!!!! :D

using 4 HDD's on RAID 0 would be somewhat silly ;)

well... RAID 3?! never heard of it before... i only heard of "0/1/4/5/10" (methinks...) i can't remember the atomic artical that well...

But what I ment, is that with my RAID controler, I have the ability of, two HDD's both raided on a thing like "0" but I can be set that it gose over 4 drives... me dont know what it's realy called... all I know is that it's like "0"

i so better get an invite ;) i seriously wanna go damnit :D

***slaps silver***

Silver! get a hold of your self man! BBQ + LAN = Need's Venue, Right? Venue = 'My Place', Ok silver? you got that? good. Since it's my parents place, and I am the son of the owner's... I 'want' to invite the following.... Zero Clan + Ex-zero-members + YOU (yes thats you SS) + one or two of my mature High School Friends. + any other people who the zero clan invites...

So... to make sure you understant SS, you have allready, been Pre-Selected by the 'Venue Provider' to go to the 'Zero LAN Fest 2003'

and since I am the venue provider, no one outside the "organising commity*", can argue with my judgements, if they do... well then... they wont be happy at the LAN day :P

*note, if the LAN day gose ahead then I will call apon some of my most trusted zero friends to help me in my ways...

alltho when it come down to the day, I dont want any 'special' privlages, all i'll be doing in laying down the house rules, and if they get broken, i'll step in...

so me wont be bossy over what maps and games and stuff we play....

me tired, me not thinking, me just rambling... will fix up any errors/ramble's tomorow......

And Xena? me not get email, Email is, [email protected], but tell me that you have sent it on the day you send it... if it makes any sence....

And august = "unavailable", gotcha ;)

haha elad, im not talking about the lan, im talking about rem's wedding :D lol

ROFLMAO! and thats what happends when your tired and you read and reply to messages!

*embarrest*

lol!

I'll come for the BBQ, but I cant lan. And Lilydale station is as far as i can get via public transport and you live ages away from there :P. So I guess SS and I will need a lift from there.

no dude, you could catch a bus to my place, but that would be slower... ***me looks at rem, for his generosity...***

and coke im sorry to say this but, we'll only have Pepsi there, coke is banned at my place.... because once time, at band camp...

yer, i can pick up ppl attending the BBQ.... insty, coke, SS could get train along belgrave or lilydale train lines and I can pick em up on the way to coldstream, or depending on where they live I could even pick em up from home - door to door! :D

This is interesting.

Ripper!!!! elo!!!! do u think u might be able to find your way over to elad's house :rolleyes: ;)

Chris, just incase you are wondering, i have asked mum allready about having a lan day / bbq at our place... ask your self if you must...

Im only throwing some idea's around at the moment... nothing is set yet.

just so the zero's know, err.... the family and I are having conflict at the moment, thats why me and Ripper are a bit 'iffy' at the moment... but he's still my brother, and I still love him as a brother, no matter how he feels about me. Same with the rest of the family, even though I dont show it much...

that's ok, we're all family here too - you're both our brothers, and justinsane too ;) :D

lord can i call in 4 a beer?

I agree rem, I believe zero is awsome social clan...

/me feels like im standing in a pile of horse manure...

Anyways, back to the original topic....

DH: um... I do not encourage alcohol consumption at the Lan/BBQ because I dont want any 'pissed' blokes sumbling around my place causing fights. But to get the full info about it i'll have to ask my parents about it, but im guessing the'll say, "no minours, and no excessive drinking"

but yeah, have to ask parents, will post details about it later.

ok lord wot about a chop & a coke?

Sure thing D/H :)

ok... what drinks do people want at the lan/BBQ?

Two elad accounts? Im confused!
And SINCE WHEN HAS RIPPER AND ELAD BEEN BROTHERS!! WFFT!!
Now I understand the other thread (Ripper you meanie)

lol lego.... they're not the only brothers in zero :rolleyes:

elad - i think we should BYO food and drink - save u a lot of hassle, ie. we each bring our own food and then share it around :D

think it'd be easier if we meet at either belgrave or lilydale station and wait there for you rem, insty = lives in city, i live in box hill and i think cokes in nunawading ?

donvale, but the closet station to me is nunawading

what if harris and dave come to my house and you pick us all up from there ?

As if get rem to drive all the way out to box hill to pick us up and then drive us all the way back...just get as far as possible to somewhere thats a little easier :P

thats what i thought would be easier, but he suggested picking us up at our houses :P:P

hmmm... maybe picking up at ringwood station would be the go.... that's the end of zone 2 isn't it? so it may save u guys a little bit in train fare..... ringwood's not far out of my way from ferntree gully to coldstream :D

I can go as far as necessary rem, I dont want you wasting your petrol on us

how bout this, 3 of us meet up somewhere ... then we go together ... eH? good plan ...
righto off we go :D

:spam:
im just gonna say here that i cant be bothered reading all 61 posts here. unless u say its somehow worth it? :P

***bump***

It's worth it Dark flash, you have missed out on allot of 'Lannage' Information....

Lego: Yes, Ripper, Justinsain and I Are all blood brothers.
And i accidently created 2 usernames one is 'Lord Elad' and the other 'Lord_Elad', but for some strange reason i can only reply with the 'Lord Elad'...

Rem: Who else are brothers? allso, it'a good idea about the food/drink thingy.... people bring their own and share...

eh...

i thought that was lego until i got to the "i can only reply with 'Lord Elad'" part. CHANGE YER AVATAR! :P

I will, just need a good scanner.... then i'll change it :P

SAOTUAOHJOADJSOAJDA:DJKAS

i have to work from 11:30 - 4:30 :( :( :( :( :( !!

sorry remmie, i would go but.. stupid work!
do one thing for me, TAKE ALOT OF PHOTOS!! scan and post ;)

***bump*** so only a BBQ then? i know that all or most of the Melbornians will be able to make it to a BYO DIY BBQ :D

:( so no one will lan with me? I know ripper will and you all know how much you like to kick Ripper's buttock-hole.... :D :D :D

apply pressure to his rectal opening via his hoof?

***bump***

DF: thats not very nice :P

How about dates for the BBQ then? not August.... because rem is away... September? October maybe? has to be on a Saturday...

whats all this "***bump***" business?!

im just nudging it to the top of the forums :D

so what's happening with this Melbourne BBQ???? I reckon a BBQ sounds like the go (not a LAN), and having it at Elad's is good for me (if you can wangle it Elad!). I'm happy to go to a local park or something with a BBQ (there's lots around) and if we BYO food and drink then Elad won't be too stressed - and I can take 3 or 4 passengers :D

A Saturday in October (Oct 11 and 18 are no good for me) or November? Who is interested? So far I gather: Ripper, Elad, Insty, Coke, SS (if he can get out of work), myself, DirtyHarry....

if we get serious about this, then we better contact ppl via e-mail and ICQ etc when we get a date as a lot of ppl don't read this forum unfortunately.

Hi ya REM! Welcome Back. Talk to Elad about this, his in charge. I'm looking forward to catching up.

Im here...

ahh... november is good, infact im free every single weekend.

And we have a huge BBQ... So big, we could probaly cook you up Rem :)

thanks rip, and i'm looking forward to catching up too :D

onya elad - so get organising this BBQ - i'm hungry! :P

if you tell me the date a couple weeks before the actual date i can make sure im not rostered on that day :)

that's good news SS - I hope Elad can set a date in november real soon :D (onya elad for organising it :D :D :D :D)

November the 1st, 8th, 15th, 22, and 29th, are all go for me.... what ever dates tickles your fancy....

watch out on november 13th...

i think they all good for me too elad..... but early in month is better for me :D

DF - what's on nov 13? :rolleyes:

anybody got any of those dates they can't make?

NOV 15th !!!

because my last exam is the 11th! so anything after that is ALL GO!!! but before that is no go :)

Oh btw its my turn next to hold one of these, which is what i will be doing in the new house, BBQ/Lan will defintely go for more than 24hrs :) cause my mum wont care aslong as we dont break shit and everything is sensible (so slaide sorry mate you cant come ;) )

SILVER! OH YES YES OH OH OH YES! Say it again silver! YES YES OH YES YES OH OH!

See what happends when you mention the word 'LAN' :)

I love you silver, i realy do... Is there any chance that i can bring my dual monitor beast?! It's dying for some Lanning Action.

wow SS - sounds good! I doubt I come to the LAN part, but certainly I would to the BBQ part :D :D :D (LANing is just too hard these days cos of chronic lack of time :P).... so would this LAN/BBQ weekend be like early next year SS?

Elad - what location are u thinking for the BBQ in November?

My place... have a BBQ then get our food and sit in the TV room and watch some DVD's with Surround-Sound.

We have like a monster BBQ here (5 or 6 burner bbq) + i work at macca's so i shouldn't have any problems cooking that meat up :D

Sound good?

elad that sounds AWESOME!!! get some fries for us from macca's too (yum!)

i reckon maybe you need to organise this via e-mail now, cos not nuff ppl r reading this thread - u should have all the zero's e-mail addies from msg's i sent b4 the wedding :P

hehehe, i could possibly get a box od Fries from work and fry them at my place, i would be able to do the perfectly since i know the temp at what they are cooked at and the time it takes, and the holding time.

Only just i'll need some money for that b4 hand and let the managers know that we would like a box, only problem is that we can ownly buy a box at a time... and one box it about 15kgs...

Yes! email, good idea! so the date (for the moment) is November the 15th?

Alltho on second thoughts, The box's of Fries are Made for macca's exclusively, so i dont know if i can actualt get some :(

elad: just get your managers to order an extra box of chips and you pay them for the chips :) your not going to be selling the chips for profit, just for personal use :) (eating them i mean)


Elad just know i wont have any equipment so you'll have to bring all the lan stuff! and bring whatever :)
Is early next year bad or good for you rem ? cause anytime after december is great for me :)

SWEEEET! Im gonna own you all! It's gonna be payback from all that Cableer Vs. 56ker ownage you all gave me! MUHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

***excuse me***

I have lan stuff, we have a spare 10mbit router (4port) and another 8 port 10mbit switch, and i only have one RJ45 cable for myself.

BTW, since im running Linux tank I can host a DHCP server and a CS server, that way we dont have to borrow rem's cs server, and the networking will be easier because of my DHCP :) :D

ok... lol you guys sort that one out :D

There is nothing to sort out, i am, and will be.

done then :P

lol - 15 kgs of fries!!! rotfl
just see if u can get some left overs :P

with the BBQ e-mail elad, I reckon give ppl the option of a few dates and see who would like to come, and what their availability will be - u may need to do 2 or 3 e-mails until it's all worked out

and don't forget the non-zero's in this thread either, cos we want them to come too! (Rem looks at insty and cokey and harry)

SS - for a LAN day next year, it would be very hard for me to come, so don't worry about me. Pretty much any time u had it tho i would certainly drop in and say hi, but not bring my PC and stuff cos i just don't have that much time these days - things may settle down in a few years tho, after i get on top of renovations etc) :D

wow sounding like a married man all ready remy :P
and by god this thread has been going for a long time 4 pages now. whats the record ?
and as for next year if the plane tickets are as cheap as they are now i'll see what i can do :D, payin the money for the ticket would be worth it me thinks lol

ok, working up the strenght to write those emails.....

rem i dont have a date set! its just whenever you guys want :) aslong as its after my exams :)

SS yep that should be no prob :D

Hero - lol that would be awesome!!! If you do come down, I'd see what I can do for you for accommodation/transport :D and lol@me sounding like a married man already - responsibility will do that to u!!! :P Stay young! ;) rotfl

:D

is the [email protected] thingy still working? or do we have a new one?

no, there is no mailing list. Im trying to set one up.