Win98 Networking

[Gelf]

I'm havin trouble with a win98 network here, I'm tryin to get a computer online through a gateway and it won't respond. For some reason the gateway's IP here is 192.168.0.11, isn't it meant to be .1 at the end? Theres another computer with .1, I'm able to ping it from here. Anyway, they use Wingate here for Internet Sharing. I put the other computer's IP as 192.168.0.bla and setup the subnet, and it still wants to be an ass. I tried it with and without specifying the default gateway and still nothing, I looked at another computer here that's working online and it doesn't specify a default gateway. WTFFFFFFFF gay win98.

[Gelf]

Oh yah forgot to mention, for some reason the NIC doesn't show up in winipcfg, just the PPP adapter, but it shows up in Network props.

[BenZor]

Originally posted by Gelfling
Oh yah forgot to mention, for some reason the NIC doesn't show up in winipcfg, just the PPP adapter, but it shows up in Network props.

Hmm
dodgy.
Dud NIC i'm guessing, try replacing it, or changing PCI sluts.

[Vio|37]

Gelf

• How many PC's are involved here?
• What are their roles?
• What are their IP's and Subnet masks?
• Is your network consisting on Windows 98 based workstations?

PS:
The above are just verification questions because you probably already answer some of the above questions but I just want to ask the questions again to make sure mate.

[Vio|37]

Also Gelf

Since you mentioned that your NIC cannot be found in winipcfg then I'm with Benz on this one. Trying to rule out any possibility that could be caused by the NIC.

• Go into Device Manager and just check the properties there for your NIC and make sure there are no problems there
• Go into your Networking Properties window and check and make sure that your NIC's configuration settings are fine
• Re-install your NIC's drivers
• Relocate NIC into another PCI slot (like BenZ suggested)
• Get your hands on another working NIC and see if that works (like BenZ suggested)

Give the above a go and if still no go then we'll go through some diagnostic tests for Windows 98 networking configuration but lets just try and focus on this NIC of yours for now.

PS:
I have a feeling that in the next stage we should focus on your all your PC's DNS settings beause you have mentioned nothing about DNS.

I have a network here that all its systems have access to the Internet. I have the server running ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) assigned here as a Gateway but it also plays a role as my DNS (Domain Name Server/Service)

Anyways, chat soon Gelf.

[Gelf]

I forgot to try and install the Wingate client. Oh and the NIC is built-in to the motherboard. Are there any progs that show the status of the lights that are normally on NICs?

[BenZor]

Should be one on the motherboard disk.
And gelf, what motherboard,
A board like mine (GA-7VRXP) has a Realtek Chip on the mobo.
If it's an older board it might only be a riser.
IN which case get a REAL PCI Card..
Wingate can be kinda dodgy.
Are either of your machines capable of running ICS?

Or WinXP?

Set them up as follows and It should work

Main Machine - IP 10.1.1.1
Subnet: 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway: Blank

Other Machines. 10.1.1.2 etc.
Subnet 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway: 10.1.1.1

Use Your ISP's DNS settings and this should work
if not.

Set one machine to 192.168.0.1
Subnet:255.255.255.0

Then set the other one to autodetect.

[Gelf]

They use Octek motherboards, I never heard of it before, its Intel, everything is onboard.

[BenZor]

Originally posted by Gelfling
They use Octek motherboards, I never heard of it before, its Intel, everything is onboard.

Ocean Technology motherboards.
www.octek.com.au
should have some programs for it.

[Gelf]

Those bastards listed a different site on the back of the manual, thanks

[Instinct]

btw winipcfg doesnt work on winxp eH?
i tried it and it just say some error .....
ipconfig opens a dos prompt, for like 2 secs then it closes by itself, can ne1 tell me wHYyY?

[Gelf]

Coz it'll close as soon as it's done, open command prompt and then type ipconfig in there

btw i forgot to mention the nic does work because i'm able to look through other computer's files over network neighbourhood

[Instinct]

nevermind

[Vio|37]

Originally posted by Instinct
btw winipcfg doesnt work on winxp eH?
i tried it and it just say some error .....

winipcfg = for home user OS'
ipconfig = for business user OS'

Originally posted by Instinct
ipconfig opens a dos prompt, for like 2 secs then it closes by itself, can ne1 tell me wHYyY?

Because when it comes to using 2000 or XP you are meant to run "ipconfig" in the integrated DOS window and not in the RUN command line that you are doing.

Just the way it is mate but if you want to know why I guess you are going to have to give Mr Gates a buzz.....

[Instinct]

but my winipcfg still don't work, i'm running xp professional ed
typed the thing in run, then an error message saying, file not found bla bla bla ....
so then iguess the only way to find out my ip is from dos, and type ipconfig eH?

[Vio|37]

That's exactly it, Insty.

When a user types in the name "winipcfg" they are actually running a program by that name that returns info about their network settings in Windows 98 and Me OS'.

The reason to why an error is returned when you attempt to run the program by the name of "winipcfg" in Windows XP is because there is no program by the name of "winipcfg" integrated into the 2000 and XP OS'.

That is why I said before that "winipcfg" is for Windows 98, Me and "ipconfig" is for Windows 2000, XP.

PS:
By typing ipconfig /all in Windows 2000 or XP DOS window will return even more information to the user in regards to their PC's networking settings.

[Instinct]

bah ... ic
but i like winipcfg better

[Vio|37]

Oh wells Insty.

You're going to use exactly what MS wants you to use so bad luck mate....